How to Stop Comparing and Start Empowering Yourself with Socia Media Influencer LaNia Roberts

We’re baaaack!! Our interview with artist and large scale impact social media influencer LaNia Roberts was SO PROFOUND and resonated with so many of you that we just HAD to bring her back! This time, Kristina and LaNia thoroughly unpack an issue that we have all battled with at times: comparing ourselves to others, and why we should draw inspiration from other people’s successes instead of feeling threatened by them.

In this episode, you will be able to:

• GET OUT OF YOUR OWN WAY! Let go of the fear of being seen and heard.
• Understand that to live your journey it takes courage. YOU NEED TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO ASK FOR HELP. The support you need will always be there for you.
• Stop self-sabotaging and instead recognize and build upon your own strengths.
• See inspiration in others further along in their journey and be inspired by them instead of feeling insecure about yourself.
• Take small courageous steps. It's in the small steps that the courage is developed to take the larger brave steps.
• Give yourself permission to LIVE YOUR BEST LIFE.
• Recognize the spiritual significance of your own ideas and know that YOUR IDEAS ARE YOUR INSPIRATION AND YOUR POWER. It is from here that your greatest self can begin to be realized.
• Learn that when inspiration strikes, WRITE IT DOWN IMMEDIATELY on paper or on your phone. Otherwise in a few hours you will forget.
• KEEP GOING! NEVER GIVE UP.

About LaNia:

LaNia Roberts, born in 1996 and hailing from Louisville, KY, discovered a profound means of self-expression in visual art amidst her early struggle with identity. Supported by numerous scholarships as a first-generation college student, she obtained a degree in Painting at Syracuse University's Visual and Performing Arts School in 2019. During this time, LaNia also traveled to over 12 countries across three continents, furthering her already broadening horizons. Presently, she resides in Louisville, KY, fully engaged as a professional artist. Her practice has also expanded into an online-based social art practice, empowering millions worldwide to embody radical self-compassion, love, and acceptance, with over 270,000+ followers between Instagram and TikTok. Most notably, her artistic endeavors have garnered her the representation of the esteemed Claire Oliver Gallery in Harlem, New York City.

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Transcript

Kristina: 0:05

Hey, everyone, it's Christina Driscoll host of this she's brave Podcast. I'm so glad you're here with me.

Unknown: 0:12

I did not start out brave at all. But I learned that we can do brave things, one small step at a time. After caregiving for my husband and son for 12 years, it was definitely time for my next chapter. I wanted to get brave women's voices out there in the world. And more importantly, I want all of you to have the courage and the resilience to live your best authentic life. So come along with me, and learn how to live your best life. And I want you to hear the brave voices of women all around the world.

Kristina: 1:03

Hey, everyone, it's Christina. Today Linna. Roberts back again, because she is though much, much she's just like, waving frantically at me. And I'm waving back at her. She is an artist. She's a social media sensation with over 270,000 followers between Instagram and tick tock, and up to half a million views on her posts. Now, we do have one other episode where I talked a lot about her background and her history. So if you haven't you guys, go back and listen to September 19 interview with Le Maya because it's just a beautiful, beautiful, amazing, interesting interview. She grew up in humble beginnings in Kentucky. She was a young black girl who struggled with her identity. But later, she discovered in visual art a creative outlet for self expression that would prove to be transformative. hayleigh Nyah,

Unknown: 1:59

ifsb. Yeah,

Kristina: 2:01

I'm doing great. How are you?

Unknown: 2:03

I'm doing awesome. So happy to be here. Better now that I'm seeing your face?

Kristina: 2:08

Yeah, me too. I'm better too. Yeah. So the last time we talked, you said and I'm quoting, there's nothing about my journey that has not taken just two Pendous amounts of courage, mainly, because I've been one of the first people that has looked like me to do and come from the place I've come from to do the things that I have done. You are a curvy black woman from Kentucky, you've traveled the world, you're an artist you studied in Florence. And you're back in Kentucky, which I think is very courageous to because I think the easier thing for you to do would be in a community of artists, you know, in New York, or something like that, or LA but, but I think you feel called to be in a place and set an example to women all over the world that if you can do what you can do, they can do it too. Yeah, you are just this, you're like this incredible role model thing for women around the world. What I want to talk about first is something that I like to talk about every so often. And it's about competition between women. Okay, and I don't I don't like that, you know, and I feel that women are very competitive with other women competitive about everything. Oh, Is she prettier than me? Does she have more money than me? Does she make more money than me? Are her kids doing better than my kids. And I really feel strongly like, if we don't stop competing with each other, and start helping and collaborating more with each other. We're never going to achieve equality with men. I believe that one of your most powerful messages is that you say it's okay to be you. And that's why you're just this, you're this insane internet sensation that's just going ballistic, right? And you're an artist and your artwork is doing very, very well. You paint and you talk and I think part of what your appeal is. It's okay to be you. It's okay.

Unknown: 4:22

It's okay. It's not like I'm saying it's amazing or it's extraordinary or like these words like it's okay. It's like such kind of a mediocre saying but it's so powerful in the act of it gives people permission to kind of exhale a little bit, so to speak. And something that I think is really powerful about some of my videos in terms of the reach that they've gotten and how they've impacted people. Is that in some of my videos I share. If you can't give yourself permission I'm giving you permission to let it out to take some time or whatever have you that I say in that part of the video. I just think that like you said, it's okay to be you that, you know, we called it that, you know, it's okay to be you, it's okay to be whoever you are. I just think that that is I just think it's so interesting. And so beautiful how, you know, we, we do need each other, sometimes to give each other permission to give each other hope. And just, I don't know, just a sense of supports, you know, when it comes to this journey,

Kristina: 5:41

beautifully, beautifully said. And I do think that's an important point is to help. I think a lot of times in today's world, we're Americans, we are so independent, that we don't even want to ask anyone for help. And it's almost gone too far in that direction. There's also something about, you know, it's okay to be you. And the permission thing I love. I love that because I believe that too. It's so interesting, but I think that sometimes we get stuck. And sometimes we need somebody to give us permission to do whatever the thing is that we want to do or be the person that we want to be it's so fascinating to me. And the comparison thing. Like listen, I just want to share a story with you. That is a story that I have never shared with my listeners. And when I was taking my podcasting class, there was there was one woman in the class who this happened a few times, and maybe the second or third time. But she would always bring up the same question. She would say, Well, Judy, in our class was a journalist, and she is so talented, in speaking and podcasting. And she she was literally comparing herself to quote, Judy, you know, that's not a real name. And I piped up, and I said, Listen, Jane, you know, we all have gifts, some of us are more talented in one thing or another thing. Yes, Judy, right now, she's the best two out of all of us. But we don't have to be the best. None of us have to be the best podcaster to still be super successful. And I think people get really stuck on that to like, well, I have to be at the very top in order to be successful. And you know, everybody starts out mediocre. I mean, sometimes what I do now is I will literally go to a really successful podcast, and I'll go back to their their first five episodes, guess what, they're not that great. I mean, they're okay, mine weren't that great either. You don't have to be the best. And I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm trying to give people permission to not as women, we compare ourselves, stop comparing yourself to everybody else, doesn't matter where they're at, doesn't matter if they're a little bit better at this or worse, or anything else. It's just, it's just you, it's just you living your best life. It's like you that's what you're doing. That's what I'm doing. We're living our best life, you know, because it's such a gift that God gave us to be here.

Unknown: 8:19

Absolutely. 100% you're bringing up this thing about comparison. And it's so interesting that you're bringing it up today, because yesterday, I was scrolling on Instagram. And someone had shared a video of a woman who was telling a story about a conversation she had with a man who had asked her to write herself from a scale of one to 10, right? We all know, scale, the number scale Oh, he's a 10 Oh, she's a three or he's a six, you know, and she refused to rate herself because in order to rate herself, she would have to look at other women and compare herself to those other women and place them either above or below her in order to place herself in this like number system. That doesn't help anybody that Bucha isn't good for her. Yeah. And she was just the way she was speaking it was with such authority and just the generosity when it came to just start deep understanding of like, this isn't working for us like this doesn't. This isn't a really beautiful thing. And it doesn't help us women, with our own inner workings of our mind, our own self love and also just like community wise doesn't help us either because we're comparing ourselves to each other, and that's not okay. And I think that when it comes to comparing you ourselves, I really love what you said, Christina about how, when you see a podcast that you really, really love and enjoy, you go back to the first five episodes. So something that's really funny for me and what how I relate to that is because before my videos were going viral on Instagram, something that I would do very often is if I ever found anyone who I resonated with on any kind of level, just like, oh my gosh, I love their authenticity. Oh my gosh, I love their content. They're so smart. How do they do that? They're so witty, just like whatever was I would go and literally research their content, aka, I would scroll until I couldn't scroll anymore to the very, very beginning of their reels. And when I tell you, Christina, I found gold whenever I did this, because every single time, no question about it. Every single time, there was a beginning, if you know what I mean, even if it was, wow, yes, or clean as the videos that they were known for, or that I knew them for. And I always wonder if anyone is doing that with my videos, because the journey is the exact same. You see the humble beginnings, you see me doing an array in a variety of different styles of videos, different things, you could see me literally playing out different ideas. And the I suppose dancing videos you like at a certain point and so

Kristina: 11:41

not know that about you?

Unknown: 11:42

Yes, yes. But I say that to say that, if we're going to compare ourselves, we have to find a way to structure it in such a way in which it is actually beneficial for our heart, our spirits and for each other, right, because I remember when I was in a very dark place in the past, and I went into this, you know, in our last episode more, but I remember when I was in a very dark place. And I would I would compare myself to other artists, I would compare myself to other friends who had their own apartments, or they were consistent when it came to their craft or, you know, just all these things that I was the complete opposite of doing, you know, I was suppressed, I could barely, you know, get out of bed most days, I could never be consistent when it came to my art at all. And when you know, as time went on, I ended up realizing that as I compare myself to these people, it's actually taking away from the light that I had within myself to really shine. It's actually a distraction, when we compare ourselves to other people on what we can't control. So that we have continued to possibly self sabotage the things that we can control, which are we taking a look in the mirror, recognizing your strings, playing upon those strings, making those strings stronger, recognizing who you are, believing in yourself more paying attention to your thought patterns, switching things up over time, asking for help, okay, going out there and doing what you can to find a mentor, messaging new people, every week, every month, however, st you want to, to gain more better relationships in your field, in your personal life, whatever, you know, there's just so many things that are within our control. And when we compare ourselves is a distraction away from that. We agree

Kristina: 14:03

and it's this is fascinating when I have because I did exactly the same thing. Especially in the early months of my podcast me launch, like after I launched I deliberately did not I shut out all the noise of other podcasters other than guests. We were I was interviewing some of them and they were interviewing me and that's all fun and great. But I literally was shutting out the noise of what the other people were doing. And there's room for everybody in podcasting. Well, there's room for everyone are there's room for everyone. That's God's gift to us, right? Like it's there, and we can accept it. And I feel like I did exactly the same thing. I tuned out what other people were doing and said, I'm going to be me 100% And I'm going to get women's voices out in the world that need to be heard. And I'm doing it You know, and I think what it was when I is that my courage grew, it was the muscle. And as the days and the months went by, and bigger names started coming on my podcast, although I will always continue to have both big names, and you know, people's people who nobody knows, but they have a great story, you know, so women's voices across the world, and just the courage muscle grew so that now I'm in a much more confident place, and I can truly celebrate the success of others. And just because someone else is successful, doesn't mean that that's taking anything away from me, right, man, since you got to speak it,

Unknown: 15:45

you better speak. I think that snaps, you know, thinking, it's so interesting, Christina, how, when we see someone doing quote unquote, better than us, we can internalize it as a threat, when in reality, it could and totally should be all internalized as inspiration. Instead, what about a shout? Or how lujah that, hey, at least somebody got it? Right? Yeah, I've been scrolling on Instagram, and I've been dating recently. And I'm getting a lot more dating content on my page. And normally, I wouldn't necessarily engage in it much, but now I'm engaging in it more. And one thing that I like to practice in, it's more so like, you know, not even consciously practicing it, because I just like, this is just a philosophy that I try to follow in my life. But when I see someone that's in a happy couple, that that has found that person, instead of looking at that person, and being jealous of them for having something that I don't currently possess, or have myself, I look at them and be like, hallelujah, at least somebody's winning out here yet, at least one, you know, because I really do believe Christina, especially coming from a position where literally, three, four years ago, I was not winning. And then now being in a position where there are so many people's eyes on me, that are seeing me at such a high place in my life, right. And this is just the beginning, this is just the beginning of my life. This is just the beginning. You know, and so, no, I have so many people that look, you know, they may look at me and see like, wow, like, you know, Minaya, like she's, you know, always happy, or look at her going viral again, or she her art career, or she's always painting or whatever have you like I literally used to be that person that would look at other people and think so negatively about myself in comparison to them. And I'm just here to say it and I I've reached I reached this point of view where it's just like, it's not worth it, it's not worth it to feel so terrible about yourself in comparison to other people. Because, you know, people don't recognize what I or people don't know not that they don't recognize what they don't know how many tears and how many struggles it's taken to get to this point in my journey. I say that because we can look at someone and be jealous of them and literally not know the hill that they are are going through, or that they went through in order to experience that. In other words, be careful what you're jealous of. might be, you might be in competition with your head or jealous of certain things, certain stories, certain people certain opportunities, experiences that you honestly might not know the full story of. And that if you did, you may think twice before you wished it was yours. You know. And I think it's so powerful that in a lot of ways, it's so important for us to take a look in the mirror. For real when we feel those feelings of jealousy. You know, I have had struggles with jealousy in the past, when I was well, we you're jealous. You're really just start seeing your own light for what it is. You're not allowing for yourself, to see yourself for who you are, and to see how much you have within yourself to become the brightest light and version of yourself that you can possibly be because that's probably what that person you're looking at has done for themselves. It's just it's so important to look at ourselves and to do our best to See who we are, and believe in ourselves as much as we can, and take inspiration from other people who are doing it better, you know, oh, that was a tangent, but I got Oh, it

Kristina: 20:15

wasn't love it.

Unknown: 20:17

Yeah, I'm just I'm also very passionate about this like, idea of competition and jealousy. I recently lost one of my best friends to jealousy within our friendship, I had invited them to come to Italy with me, and I handled so much of the trip in terms of finances. I just had it like that, at that point, I wanted to invest in that friendship, because of how much we both went through together, not in the friendship, but just we had seen each other grow in so many different stages of our lives, over the course of like the five years that we were best friends. And I was finally seeing a lot of my work starting to be paid off. My friend, on the other hand, though, was still a bit in the trenches and turnstiles, not necessarily making it through all the way yet, in terms of their journey. And literally all I wanted for them is to help me celebrate, it was my birthday. And I just wanted them to help me celebrate my life, my birthday, have us celebrate each other and how far we've come in our friendship, don't you, oh, that person came all the way to Italy, just to be a downer, you know, and just completely disrespected, the entirety and the nature of the entire trip. Because at the end of the day, they felt like they should have been in my position, rather than I be in my position. In other words, they were continuously comparing themselves to me and my journey, wondering why they hadn't made it in the ways that I was making it. And I just want to let everybody know, like, that is such a sad way to lose a friend. Because when you can't look at someone and genuinely celebrate them for who they are and how far they've come, there's something dark within you that you have to base a you have to look at, because the only way that you can look at someone who is a light out here, and is literally helping you and your pitch and not be happy for them when they when the only way that is is that you don't recognize your own light for what it's worth. You don't see how powerful your own journey is. And I think that's such a disservice. I think what made me the most sad with that friendship was that not that that person hurt me, but that that person couldn't see themselves. And I tried for so long for so many years to, you know, show them what I saw in them, you know, but then they just couldn't see. And it was so it was so hard to let that friendship go Christina. It was so hard. And I believed in that person so much. It was the last straw that that trip to Italy was the last straw for me because it made me realize, Listen, I'm not gonna get any less better. Okay? This life.

Kristina: 23:44

I'm not gonna get any less matter.

Unknown: 23:46

Listen, this light is gonna keep getting brighter. If you can't stand the light now, how about you a year from now? And I'm sad and a year after that. Right? Right. Just, uh, when I was in Italy, I had a went viral. I didn't have hundreds of 1000s of followers. I didn't have those things, right.

Kristina: 24:06

I think it's so cool how you went back and studied other people who were successful on Instagram. And you just embraced that. And I love hearing the story of how you were you were posting things and like, including dancing, and some of it didn't work. And it's just all a process, right? Like we had a guest on my podcast back in August, who basically said there are no mistakes because you just keep doing things and you keep learning. And you were also talking about you and how people don't know, the incredibly hard journey that is behind the story behind your story. And the sort thing that I like to talk about is someone like Ed Sheeran who wrote hundreds of songs before any of them were published hundreds. So the first few 100 Songs are rejected. That's a lot, you know. But that was just part of his learning curve. And when he started when he first was starting up, this is a really cool story. He was an opening act for Taylor Swift. And they're great friends, right? Like he was just the little guy, she was being pretty generous to have him be her opening act. And recently here in Seattle, we have this gigantic stadium. So there was a Taylor Swift concert. Okay. So 70,000 people went to the stadium and heard Taylor Swift, so she broke a record, okay. But then, within a month, like, within a few weeks, it just so happened that Ed Sheeran was also having a concert in Seattle, and he broke the record, he broke the record again. So he had something like 72,000 people watching him at the stadium in Seattle. Wow. And, you know, it's just, and here was the guy that had to write 300 songs, before anybody would even talk to him, you know, what have you we can all look at someone like him and just be like, Oh, well, I could never do that. And, and that's kind of what I was trying to tell my friend in the in the class, you know, in my podcasting class was, it's okay to be mediocre, you don't have to be the very, very best, you can still be extremely talented and do really, really well. And you're going to always improve, you're always going to improve, right?

Unknown: 26:34

So Real, and very go with the comparison again, because if you're waiting to be perfect before you start, that means you're looking to people, right? That are already where you want to be. And pairing yourself and making yourself think that you need to be there. But honey, did you were Oh, honey, their page three years ago, six years ago, did you look at their first interview? Did you look at their first painting? Can you even see that? Do you even have access to that? Probably not. But can you imagine that they too did not start off? Perfect? No one does. No one does. And it's so because I didn't post on Instagram. Ever. I was scrolling through my posts from this past year. And I have posted more this past year than I was totally posted in the past four years combined, right? Because, wow. Yeah, I actually need to go through and count because I'm probably not that far off. But I seriously, I have posted so much the shoe because I have let go more than I ever have in my entire life. The fear of being seen, and the fear of making mistakes publicly. And Mizzu. Come on, girl, isn't it literally, a maggot industry.

Kristina: 28:10

It's amazing, because I remember recording my trailer thinking, oh, there's probably going to be people that don't don't like it. Yeah, you know, it's just amazing. But just doing those tiny steps every time you just keep getting more and more courage in like what you said it's very, very liberating, because I'm like, I'm so Okay, with lots of mistakes. I'm totally fine with it.

Unknown: 28:37

But you know, what's really beautiful? You know what's really interesting when we look back on our first take our first shot our first humble beginning, beginning, right? And the first thing we think about is oh my gosh, how many people are going to hate this? Oh my gosh, I bet there's going to be so many people that dislike this. But do we ever give ourselves the chance to think of the possibility of how many people might be able to look past the mistakes and actually enjoy what you put out? I'm interested in hearing you know, Christina and as I imagined Yeah, you thought when you first had your trailer? Yeah, you probably thought like, oh my gosh, like he said, he was just like, oh, this kind of sucks in certain ways. You know, there are probably gotta be people that don't like this. I wonder like, I'm curious as to how many people loved it. Because I feel like we don't give ourselves the opportunity to imagine the people who will love our like love our work, even in the mistakes that we've made, and even most likely to possibly not even see the mistakes and even when someone does see the mistakes people in a lot more grace than We give them like the credit for just in relationship to the fact that people are excited to be a part of the journey where you get better over time. People love to witness the fact that they saw you said at the beginning you since then, you know, not everyone, you have your haters, you have your people that will, you know, just glean and glisten over the fact that, you know, you're the most terrible person out here, right. But there are going to be people who will see the vision in you, right. And we'll follow it from the beginning to the end. And here's another thing, you know, I even see people and you know, there was someone that reached out to me recently, that was just like, I feel like we need to collaborate. And I looked at their page, and I did not feel the same way. They weigh it. It's not, it's not it's no shame to them, or their content. But it just didn't feel like we resonated on the same levels. And I say that to say that, you know, I looked at their work. And I wasn't necessarily a fan of it yet, at least you know, but I did say that they still had likes, they still had people in the comments thanking them for their work. Just because I don't like something doesn't mean that it's not important. And just because something gets five likes doesn't mean that it doesn't have the power to change somebody's day. somebody's life, you know, and it's so important to really think about what value we put in these numbers. What does it mean to change one person's life over 1000? People's?

Kristina: 31:57

Yeah, that's such a great point. I had somebody who's an acquaintance of mine, who I saw a few days ago. And she told me that an episode I think it aired in June with with a woman named Aaron Ramsey. Really great episode. She said, Christina, that episode of you interviewing Aaron, literally changed my whole life. Whoa, I was blown away by that. And I feel like I'm on a different path now. And it's amazing. Wow. Yeah. But that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to have women live their best lives and like, you're like my poster child, or poster woman, I should say, poster, empower black woman, you know, of, you know, living living your best life with, you know, unapologetically authentically, not caring what other people think. Okay, I'm going to switch gears a little bit now, because I'm curious about something. In our last interview, which was just amazing. As you know, you had mentioned that you really followed your heart, and you follow God's voice to start posting on Instagram. And so did I did exactly the same thing. It was like gods was speaking, you know, and like, not like as an actual weaking. But yeah, it just was a very strong calling. And one of the things that I think is really important as far as success in whatever you do, and this thought came to me on my morning hike, almost every morning, I take my dog for an hour hike 10 minutes from my house, just go on into the actual woods. And these thoughts come to me because I think I'm sort of in a creative flow. Yes, I'm, you know, Felicia, and I'm just quiet, quieting my thoughts. And then these these revelations come to me. And then I got a little smarter and realize, well, I can just like, pull out my iPhone and, and use voice memo and just, you know, talk about them, and then use them later. And so I've been thinking about this concept of getting in flow. And I like to call it being connected to God or the universe where Amazing things happen. I think for you, you get an alignment when you're painting. And what a cool idea that you just got the idea to turn on your camera and talk about what was going on in your mind. And I just wanted to kind of share that with the listeners that I think we all need to find. Whether it be a physical activity, or a creative activity, like in your case painting, how we get into this sort of magical place.

Unknown: 34:44

Stillness.

Kristina: 34:45

Yeah. He's so cool.

Unknown: 34:48

Absolutely. It's amazing. I mean, it's funny like, I get a lot of my ideas while I am painting and while I am driving the

Kristina: 35:00

But oh my gosh meets you driving. And that's I'm gonna, I'm using Voice Memo more. I think everyone in America gets really cool ideas driving. And I think one of the easiest things to do is on every phone, there's an app called Voice Memo or something like it, you know, Voice Recording,

Unknown: 35:21

we all have it, tap on it, tap Record, that's it, it's so easy, it's so easy. Or go into your notes, app on your phone and just type it out. That's, that's how I write out most of my ideas. I just like, write down like a single sentence about what I'm thinking of, or it might be two whole paragraphs of exactly what I want to say. And just like, you know, in terms of how strong the exact inspiration is, but it is so important to allow for your ideas when they come to be materialize, even in the smallest of ways. Like you said, a voice note, like I said, a note in your phone, where you literally just pay respect to the idea by taking out the time love it, do what you need to do to not forget it. Because we all know what happens when we don't write the idea down. Or we don't snag a thought on a voice note. It's so clear. When it comes to us. We think Well, how could I ever forget this? Because you're human you will. And like I said, respect the ideas

Kristina: 36:41

and respect to the idea. I love that. I think this is part of the secret sauce. I do. And I'm going to include this in my podcasting class that I'm starting next week, because there's a lot of pieces to the secret sauce, you know, and one of them is that those ideas, those those pearls, those gems of wisdom that come, you know, through our creativity, or through our exercise or when we're driving it is interesting, it does happen a lot when we're driving. And you and I have both figured that out. Oh, this has to be this has to be written down in some way. Right? Like this has to be because yes, an hour from now I'm not, I'm not gonna remember what it was so cool.

Unknown: 37:26

Yeah, definitely a keeper of ideas. I have hundreds of notes, whether it's art ideas, or video ideas, I literally try my best to write down, I feel like I get a good 80% or 70%, at least of my ideas. Now, there are some moments where I'm like, Oh, I'm gonna remember and I don't. But I really do try to pay respect, because there's this theory of spiritual theory that ideas are not yours. They're actual, like, spirits and so to speak, or they have energy to them. These ideas floating around in the universe, waiting to find a vessel to plant themselves in. I love this concept that is so cool. Yes. So they can actually be nurtured and come into fruition into this physical realm on this earth, right. Like, the ideas have their own identities. Ideas have their own, like they're, they're a separate being in and of themselves, that are looking to become like, real. And so really

Kristina: 38:49

love this. I have not even heard this concept, but it's incredible.

Unknown: 38:54

I'm gonna think of the woman who wrote the book, Eat, Pray, Love.

Kristina: 38:59

She, Gilbert, she's really good. She has

Unknown: 39:03

an amazing and amazing creativity, a book where she talks about creativity and what it means, like what it means and the nature of it. That's where I first heard that example, be shared. I listened to that audiobook. And it was amazing. There were just so many nuggets that I took from it. I listened to that book, back in 2017. And I still look back on some of the things that I learned from that. But really amazing, amazing woman or it just in terms of like from what she shared in that book. It was really really insightful.

Kristina: 39:46

Wow. Oh my gosh, listen, I you and I, we can like talk forever. That's why you come back every month. I guess because I feel like when we get together there's this amazing is in collaboration and these beautiful ideas and things that so much comes through. And I have little notes, I don't know about you, but I'll put like these little notes all around my desk. And one of the one that ones that's kind of more front and center that I put somewhere I see all the time it says, It's not about pressing people, it's about helping people. That's for me for my podcast. But I think that's part of your secret sauce to WoW is that you're not all about impressing people, you're about helping people. Well, and that's why people love you, because you are not about impressing people. You're all about helping people. And people know that people sense that. That's the underlying vision for you. And that's my underlying vision to like, we're not here to impress other people, we're here to help them. So that's what we're doing here. And I just feel like I could go on and on and on with you. Because I still have my six pages of notes. There's so many topics, then I don't seem to be getting that much closer. I'm getting through my six pages, but we're just uncovering so many interesting pearls of wisdom. Every time we connect. It's just amazing. And with that being said, Is there anything else Lanai that you would like to share with my listeners today?

Unknown: 41:30

Mm hmm. Ah, great question. I just want to like give a special shout out to anyone who may be doubting whether or not they will ever get it together enough to actually get over themselves, enough to be able to actually put themselves out there in the world to invest in themselves, and their gifts and their talents to finally let themselves shine. I just want to give a special shout out to whoever is listening, that identifies with that, I just want to let you know that you will get through a you will find a way I don't care how old you are, I don't care how many times you tried and failed or whatever. If you have the desire, it's still possible. And I don't want you to give up on yourself. Please don't give up on yourself. Please don't give up on your journey. Know that it is possible for anything to happen for any possibilities to come into fruition for you to finally let the world know how bright you shy. And secondly, define the world. Right? Does that mean going viral and having so many people see you? Or is it okay? If your videos only get 100 views per video, but it's 100 people and people like you are doing your thing in terms of helping instead of impressing, you know. So just like continue to look at look to yourself and recognize what is truly important, and what exactly you want. And continue to have the hope that there will be a time and a place where you will no longer find it necessary to get in your own way. So I hope that helps someone don't give up. I'm saying this because I used to be someone that needed to hear what I just said. And now I'm the person that is actually getting out of my own way and shining my light. And I'm just so grateful to be on the other side to tell other people that the other side is real. And you can get there too. So yeah.

Kristina: 43:56

Oh, I love that so much. I think next time, we're definitely going to have to dive into grit. And because you and I had to have grit to get to where we are today. And I want to hear more about your story and your wisdom around that. But until next time, we're giving the listeners something to look forward to, since you're on monthly and we always have such a great time. So I'm going to ask you again to go ahead and share where everybody can find you.

Unknown: 44:33

So my website is www dot lun nya Roberts L A, n i A R O B E R T S and that's where you can see some of my artwork and even find my email and just ways to contact me. And then there is my Instagram and Tiktok which is at my first and last name when I Roberts L A Nia are Ope, RTS. I hope that we can join each other on the journey looking forward if you guys join us to tag along, and yeah, I'd share content on there as frequently as I can. Sometimes it's a little slower. Sometimes it's a little more frequent, depending on what life is looking like. But I always try to send and share good vibes. So that's where you can find me.

Kristina: 45:30

Beautiful. This was so much fun again today, when I we always discovered and learn new things together. I think you are so inspiring. That's why these conversations are so amazing.

Unknown: 45:45

Thank you. Thank you. This has been so great. Thank you for having me on again. I really appreciate you. I hope this episode helps somebody out there. And I can't wait for the next time meeting. Okay.

Kristina: 45:59

Biola Naya Lagostina Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for taking time out of your busy life to listen to today's episode. I love learning about what makes you brave. I'm here with you. I see you. I hear you and I want to hear from you. I want to know how you're showing up as being brave and authentic. Connect with me on Instagram at she's brave podcast, or come join our community in the she's brave podcast Facebook group. I'm sending you so much love. Until next time. Keep being brave.